The Glow Show with Celebrity Dermatologist Dr. Rose Ingleton
Show Snapshot:
Ready to get your glow on? Dermatologist-to-the-stars Dr. Rose Ingleton demystifies cosmetic procedures like Botox, lasers, fillers, peels, and more. Plus, we dive into clean, conscious skincare products that target midlife skin concerns, including brown spots, hyperpigmentation, dry skin, fine lines, and wrinkles. Bonus! We talk serums, retinoids, products worth investing in, and budget-friendly drugstore buys.
In This Episode We Cover:
1. Hands, down this is the #1 the cosmetic procedure women want.
2. Botox, lasers, peels, and fillers, decoded.
3. Why hyaluronic acid is the hottest skincare ingredient going.
4. Collagen is scaffolding for your skin. What happens when it disappears?
5. The best age for cosmetic procedure success.
6. Addressing acne, discoloration, brown spots, fine lines.
7. Dry skin is one of the most common midlife complaints. How to hydrate once and for all.
8. Skincare superheroes: Retinol, fruit acids, salmon.
9. Why Dr. Ingleton created a skincare line with her signature Jamaican SuperFruit blend.
Quotable:
As we get older, we start to lose a little collagen and so lines become static, so they’re there even when you’re not making the expression. People will see those lines early on and they’ll ask me what can I do about these? And the answer usually is Botox. And that’s why it’s the number one thing that I do in terms of cosmetic dermatology.
I’m Jamaican-born. I went back to my roots and created what I call the Jamaican SuperFruit Blend, a blend of fruit extracts that I grew up around. When I went to medical school and to dermatology training, I realized that we were incorporating the same fruit acids into our treatments that I ate when growing up in Jamaica. So, I created the Jamaican SuperFruit Blend, which is a blend of orange extract, sugarcane extract, lemon extract, berries, and hyaluronic acid. Like all these yummy things that we eat.
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In the News
Demystifying the Differences Between Face Oils & Serums - Bustle
5 Reasons Jojoba Oil Is the Hydrator Your Skin Needs – Elle Magazine
Dermatologist Rosemarie Ingleton’s New Skin-Care Line Is Powered by Jamaican Superfruits – Vogue Magazine
Transcript:
Katie Fogarty (00:06):
Welcome to A Certain Age, a show for women on life after 50 who are unafraid to age out loud. I’m your host, Katie Fogarty. All September long, A Certain Age is talking with experts about beauty and wellness and the practices and products that help us be healthy and get our glow on.
So, I’m delighted to be joined today by dermatologist-to-the stars, Dr. Rose Ingleton, a favorite of A-listers like Ashley Graham, Iman, Vogue magazine, and more. Dr. Ingleton wears multiple beauty hats. She’s a dermatologist, assistant clinical professor of dermatology at Mt. Sinai, and a noted leader in treating ethnic skin, adult acne, and in dermatological surgery. She’s also the creator of the cult-favorite skincare line, ROSE Ingleton MD, sold at Sephora, Net-a-Porter, and a who’s who of retailers. She joins us today to demystify cosmetic procedures like Botox, lasers, fillers, and peels plus we dive into her line of clean, conscious skincare products that target midlife skin concerns. Welcome, Dr. Ingleton.
Dr. Rose Ingleton (01:07):
Thank you for that wonderful welcome Katie.
Katie (01:10):
I’m so excited to have you here today because I’ve had multiple listeners say to me, “When are you gonna focus on skin? When are you gonna focus on beauty?” And your expertise covers so many areas and we’re gonna hit on them all. But I wanna start with cosmetic dermatology. What would you say is the number one procedure that midlife women ask you for when they come into your office?
Rose (01:31):
Number one, at this point, is Botox.
Katie (01:35):
And why is that? Is it because it treats so many things? It’s for wrinkles and the smile lines that you have on your face. I’ve had friends use it for migraines in their scalp and things.
Rose (01:47):
Yeah, you know I think because Botox, the company Allergan that created Botox has done such a good job of marketing that everyone has heard of it, it seems like. They may not be clear on what it’s used for but they know that you know, the people who look good, or the people who looking as if they’re maintaining themselves as they age are using Botox. So, I get a lot of questions about it. And many times it’s not the right product for them, but people are asking me most for that.
If I tell you what Botox does, then you might understand why this group of people tends to ask for it so much. It’s meant to control the lines that are created by excessive movements, so repetitive movements. We’ve all been crunching our eyebrows together for 40, 50 years and as we get older we start to lose a little collagen and so lines become static, so they’re there even when you’re not making the expression. And the same thing comes on the forehead and around the eyes, what we call crow’s feet. Those are from years and years of repetitive motion. So, as a matter of just getting older, people will see those lines early on and they’ll ask me what can I do about these? And the answer usually is Botox, and that’s why it turns out to be the number one thing that I do in terms of cosmetic dermatology.
Katie (03:08):
So, I can totally see why people are interested in this because as you said, the static lines tend to stick around. If you are using Botox to treat those, what is the cadence, how often do you need to be in your office getting sort of, renewal treatments?
Rose (03:24):
The typical scenario is it starts wearing off around three and a half to four months after you’ve done it. Of course, I have people on either side, the outliers, I call them. You have people who would last for 6 months and then you have those it’s like 10 weeks, it’s all gone, it’s like they never had it. So it depends on how your body metabolizes the product. But the general consensus is around three and a half to four months, so you’re committing to doing it probably three to four times a year.
Katie (03:53):
Okay, that sounds reasonable. So what are some of the other treatments that you offer that are popular? Maybe like two and three. Is it lasers? Is it peels? What are the other procedures that people most want?
Rose (04:06):
Yeah, I would say number two would be peels, and I do peels of all sorts. And number three would be fillers. Again, because of what happens to our skin as we age, the peel, for example, targets one of those concerns, which is like, your skin gets a bit dull-looking, it just looks like the cells are just sitting there, they’re not sloughing off like they used to when we were younger, or not doing it naturally anyway. Or your skin starts to show like crinkly fine lines, things that just show that you’re advancing in age, and chemical peels can really help to address some of that.
And then fillers are number three because we lose volume, it’s just the way the humans age, you start to use volume in the center part, the mid part of your face, like around the cheeks, and as you lose that volume, you’re losing a little of the scaffolding that tends to hold your face up. So you start to see the effects of sagging, lines around the mouth, lines below the corners of your mouth, the nasal labial folds, we call those lines between the nose and the lips, the parentheses.
Katie (05:18):
[laughs] I love that, that sounds so friendly.
Rose (05:23):
They’re all a result of changes in the volume of your face. You’re losing some of your collagen structure and the scaffolding that holds your face up and fillers will fix that. If I were to say the most common things, it’s gonna be Botox because of the repetitive movements that we’ve done for years, chemical peels of various strengths because of the texture changes that occur, and fillers because we’re losing volume as we age and sometimes want to put that back so you can have your face look somewhat like it did before.
Katie (05:56):
Sure, of course. It has sort of that youthful, I don’t want to say plumpness, but it has that youthful sort of bounce and sort of fullness. I want to get to peels in a minute, but let’s keep talking about fillers. What are we actually filling it with? What’s going into your face or your lip, to help provide the scaffolding?
Rose (06:16):
So, years ago when I started as a dermatologist, all we had available was collagen. Because we’re losing collagen so the thought was, let’s try to put collagen back. But collagen was a very allergenic type of ingredient to work with. A lot of people got reactions to it. And so collagen kind of went by the wayside.
Nowadays, most people who are getting fillers are getting hyaluronic acid fillers, which that’s a much more inert product, it doesn’t seem to be reactive to people’s skin. We don’t have to test you, we don’t have to worry that you’re gonna react with something that shows that you’re allergic. So, that’s never the problem. There are other fillers available. There are some that are based on the calcium molecule, there’s also something called Sculptra which is another type of, not a filler so much, but a product that helps to volumize your face naturally. They are not as popular because you don’t get your benefit right away and we are very much about: can we get this and get it where we can see the result right now? So most people who are getting fillers are getting hyaluronic acid fillers, which are my preferred types of filler anyway.
Katie (07:29):
Got it. So I hear that the term hyaluronic acid is also used for moisturizers and lotions. Is this something different? You’re applying that topically, but it’s the same kind of plumping ingredient, is that correct?
Rose (07:42):
Yeah, it is. It’s the best, I swear. It’s the product of the moment, the ingredient of the moment rather. Because what it does is it attracts moisture so your body’s water gets absorbed into the product when it’s injected into your skin. And what you find is that after about two days, it’s as if that product was always there because it blends with your body’s water. The natural function and the way that hyaluronic acids function is that they absorb water into them, they attract water and that’s one of the ways that it makes it look natural when you inject it under the skin. When we put it on the surface, it’s actually helping to hydrate the skin. It’s not really getting down really deep, you know, you’re not getting all the way into your collagen level with the topical products usually, but you’re gonna hydrate the skin surface, draw extra moisture into the skin. It’s just a beautiful product and it doesn’t clog—
Katie (08:44):
No wonder it’s so popular because if you can use it both internally and topically. I love the idea that it’s working with your body’s natural chemistry, the water that you already have in your body.
Rose (08:56):
By the way, we also naturally have hyaluronic acid, right, as part of the collagen structure of our skin and we do lose some of that over time. So, if you wanna think of it as you replenishing some of what you had anyway with something that is as similar as it can be to what you had in your skin naturally to begin with, that you’ve just been losing over time.
Katie (09:17):
That makes sense, that it’s something that’s not as foreign, that it’s something that you already had that is just disappearing. So, speaking of disappearing, how long do these last? And when should women consider starting these? Is this one of these situations where you should be using these fillers before we’re at DEFCOM 5 and there are a million wrinkles? [Rose laughs] give us a timeline, so we can just sort of understand when the interventions work best, and when maybe it’s too late, or you know, it’s not needed.
Rose (09:49):
Yeah. That’s a really good question. So it depends on what you’re filling right. There are some people who are using fillers to give them a bit more of what they never had to begin with. Some people have very thin lips and they’d rather have plumper lips. So girls in their twenties, or women rather, are sometimes coming in for lips to be plumped. I wouldn’t even consider that population. In our age group that we’re concerned with for your show, in their forties and above, they’re ideally in the time of life when fillers are going to show the most benefit based on what’s happening with their faces.
So I would say, late thirties, forty is a nice time to be introduced, especially when it comes to those lines, the parentheses that I mentioned earlier. Those tend to start showing up in your late thirties, early forties. So, you know, it’s a matter of how pronounced it is, and how different it is from how your face looked previously, that you can decide whether okay, it’s time for me to start working on this now. In terms of cheek enhancement, which we tend to get flat on the cheek area as we get older, that’s something that you notice more in late forties, early fifties. So again, when I look at a person’s face, I literally analyze what’s happened with their face and I try to show them where I’ve seen that there’s been some volume loss, some loss of the fullness that they had before.
Katie (11:32):
And how do you do that? Do you ask them to bring in pictures from when they were younger? Is that something that you look at so you can see the face when they were in their twenties? Or is that something that you just instinctively know after 20 years of practice, where there should be plumpness?
Rose (11:45):
Yeah, it’s the second one. I look at them almost the way an artist looks at something. I look for shadows, I look for areas of depression on the skin, I look for folds that are forming. It’s like a full analysis of what is going on with their face, and then I explain it to them. I explain why they’re seeing “xyz” result. I say, “It’s coming from here and if I fix ‘xyz’ then this will happen.” So, it’s very much, it’s like doing geometry [both laugh] it’s geometry, and working, talking about gravity. There’s a little bit of science that I bring into the conversation because I like for people to understand what can be achieved and what we’re not going to do.
Katie (12:33):
And is that something, do people come in with realistic expectations, or do you sometimes have to reset those for your patients?
Rose (12:43):
Oh, it’s all over the place. [Katie laughs] sometimes they’re really realistic and they completely understand because I’m really big on being clear. I want people to feel like when they leave my office, they understand what we’re up against, what we talked about, and what the plan should be to fix that thing. There are people who come in and really, I will tell them when it’s so; they need a face lift, need a neck lift, they need a full face lift or a lower face lift, and I will tell them when that’s the fix.
Katie (13:17):
And is that something that you do? Or is that not in your treatment practice?
Rose (13:21):
No, that’s the plastic surgeon so I will direct them. And sometimes it’s the oculoplastic surgeon, meaning the plastic surgeons that just do work on the eyes because a lot of people come in because the eye lids are, you know, you’ve got like fifteen folds above your eyelids. It’s in my family, so I know what my future looks like. [both laugh] Just a drop of your eyebrows and then a lot of extra skin just kinda sitting there. That is not fixable with a filler, nor Botox, nor a peel. You just need to have the surgical fix, which is called blepharoplasty and so for that, I would refer them out.
Katie (14:00):
Gotcha. That’s great information. Because I think that sometimes people might think that you can fix all of the things that are going wrong in a face and that maybe there’s a potion or lotion, but it sounds like there needs to be sort of interventions that come beforehand and then if people aren’t getting what they need, then the next step is plastic surgery.
I’m curious though, you mentioned dermaplaning and sort of peels, can you walk us through those a little bit? What can they do in terms of age spots or wrinkles? Across the skin spectrums, because we all come in all different shapes and sizes with different skin tones. What works best maybe sort of for universal concerns like maybe wrinkling or discoloration? And what works best for skin tones that are maybe lighter or darker?
Rose (14:53):
Okay. The reason that I do so many chemical peels in my practice is because it can be used for such a broad spectrum of skin concerns. There are very light, superficial peels that I do all week long for my patients who have acne, that’s a huge part of my patient base. There are chemical peels that will help to slough away dead layers, unclog the pores, dry out the acne pimples, and really help people struggling with acne to get better. So we use peels for that.
But we also use peels for people who have discoloration related to hormonal issues like melasma, or who have sun spots because their complexion is lighter and they’ve been in the sun for years without proper sun protection. So, there are chemical peels that are more like a medium depth chemical peel that we’ll do for those conditions. And then there are the deeper peels, which I don’t do super deep peels because they’re too risky anyway. If you need a deeper peel, I would rather switch you to some form of a laser procedure where I can have more control over how deeply the product is going to penetrate into your skin. But chemical peels are used for so many things that I end up using, I do them often. Many of the peels are just what we call lunchtime peels.
Katie (16:17):
[laughs] I love that.
Rose (16:18):
Yeah, as long as you’re willing to go back to work without your makeup, without your full face on, then you can get a quick peel during your lunch break because it takes literally about 20 minutes, you’re in the office probably for 30 minutes, because it’s so quick and there’s really no downtime with most of the chemical peels. So, people don’t know what you’re doing. You know, you can see the difference, you can feel your skin texture feeling smoother, you can see like this glow coming out because you’ve definitely removed a layer of skin, no matter how superficial it is, even if you can’t see it happening, you are shedding some of the upper layers of skin. So that brighter skin underneath gets a chance to come out. And if you’re doing mild peels, you’ve gotta do a series of them, because you’re not gonna get a big bang for your buck with one very light peel. So you know, people will do them like once a month and each time they come it just gets better and better, and you kind of watch yourself progress and watch the glow come out.
Katie (17:21):
That sounds so divine. I love the idea of a lunchtime glow. So, laser sounds like it’s a deeper treatment then, is that correct?
Rose (17:28):
Absolutely.
Katie (17:28):
And why do people come to you for lasers? And what do they leave with once they get them?
Rose (17:34):
So, the laser is just really a description of a device, a light source that we use to zap things. So, there are lasers for various concerns. Unfortunately, one laser doesn’t work for everything that we use lasers for. We have lasers that target just brown spots. So if you present a red spot to that laser, it doesn’t work at all, it does nothing. We have lasers that target, for example, let’s start with brown spots. So, people who have tons of sun spots or who have dark scars, those people will use the fraxel[1] laser in our office or the clear and brilliant laser. Both of those lasers are going to target brown pigment, one of them is more aggressive than the other so we choose which one we’re gonna use based on how much downtime that person can allow themselves.
Katie (18:30):
And what is the downtime?
Rose (18:33):
So downtime meaning, if we do the Fraxel laser, you have to agree that for five days, you’re okay with your face being dry, crumbly, having like I call it corn flakes [Katie laughs] like having dry corn flakes in areas, and it’s not gonna get in the way of your social life.
Katie (18:50):
Gotcha, gotcha.
Rose (18:51):
If you’re like, “Oh no, no, no, I work in an office, my husband doesn’t need to know that I do this."
Katie (18:57):
[laughs] I love it.
Rose (18:58):
Then we say, okay then maybe this isn’t for you, or maybe you plan it when people are out of town and you can get away with having cornflakes on your face for five days. Because the result is so much more dramatic if you allow yourself to get a deeper treatment, you get much more of a bang.
Katie (19:15):
A woman I follow on Instagram is talking about how she goes in for, kind of in air quotes, she says I do "baby Fraxel”.
Rose (19:23):
There you go, so that’s the other machine. So our baby Fraxel machine is called the Clear and Brilliant laser which is the same technology as the Fraxel but it’s for the person who cannot allow for downtime. It’s not as deep and because of that, you have to do multiples to get to that same end point. But you know, for a lot of people that are great because they’re like, nobody knows I’m doing it, I had my treatment, I come home, maybe I look a little flushed, but nothing. Nobody really knows you did it, and you get your results over time by doing more treatments of that. So, that’s the baby Fraxel.
Katie (20:00):
And what about micro-needling? Because I’m gonna confess that I have done this and is this different from Fraxel because one of my friends, I did micro-needling at a doctor’s office and I was told that the downtime was sort of negligible and because I’m so freckly and fair, I looked like I had been dragged behind the back of a motorcycle [laughs] for a week. My kids were like, “What happened?” And I was like, “Mom did something insane.”
Rose (20:33):
So, this is why I always do consultations. I don’t like when people just show up and say, I wanna do what my friend did, I want the “xyz”. Your skin is totally different from your friend’s.
Katie (20:43):
I should have seen you, I should have seen you, Dr. Ingleton. [both laugh]
Rose (20:46):
No, but just to clarify a little bit, micro-needling is a different type of technology. So I’m gonna finish talking about the lasers.
Katie (20:52):
Okay, perfect.
Rose (20:53):
...just so we don’t confuse folks. So the Fraxel and the baby Fraxel laser are really targeting the brown spots. So think about all those brown things I mentioned before. If your skin is of a certain color, if you’re really, really light-skinned, you can do either machine. If you’re darker-skinned or medium complexion person, you are gonna be guided toward the baby Fraxel, because there are more risks involved with doing Fraxel on darker skin.
All right, so then the next category that we use lasers for are broken blood vessels which of course, if you have lighter skin or even medium complexion skin, as time goes on you start to see a lot of these broken capillaries showing up. So the middle of your face has a network of little squiggly lines on the cheeks, the chin. Those, we have a special laser that treats that. It’s also the same laser we use for treating spider veins, little tiny capillaries, broken capillaries you get on your chest and your legs. So that’s good to know. But again, that laser, it literally only sees red. So, if you point it at something that’s a different color, nothing’s gonna happen. So, we have to have lasers for everything in here; lasers that treat just brown spots, just for broken capillaries, just for veins, and then there’s a whole different category just for tattoos. So, it’s all over the place.
Katie (22:15):
It sounds like you’ve got something for whatever somebody’s gonna come in for. Do you do tattoos? Or is that something, is that like a side project that other people do?
Rose (22:25):
Yeah, I used to do tattoo removal with the laser years ago. But I didn’t enjoy the work and quite frankly I just stopped doing it because it just wasn’t fun for me. There were so many other tools that I had available to me to do things that I actually enjoyed doing that I decided that I would just let other doctors or practitioners do tattoo removal.
Katie (22:48):
I love that. Frankly, I think we get to a certain age and we’re like, we’re only doing and focusing on what lights us up and makes us feel good and where we feel like we’re making a difference.
Rose (22:57):
Exactly. Micro-needling is a totally different technology. So, that’s not a laser. That’s a machine that we have here, it uses these little tiny micro-needles which poke the skin and can also deliver radio frequency heat. So, we use that machine typically for skin tightening, we use it for texture issues, people who have indented acne scars, or have very deep wrinkles, we can sometimes use it for that. Those are the main things that we’re using it for. So, I think of it more for texture-related stuff.
Katie (23:36):
Got it. I definitely should have seen you, because I went in for something totally different. [laughs]
Rose (23:43):
It depends you know, how deeply the needles are penetrating. On the machine, we have the ability to make it penetrate ever so superficially. Or if we’re dealing with really indented thing, we have the ability to make it go in many more millimeters into the skin. The downtime, or recovery time afterward, varies depending on how deeply we’re penetrating those needles and also how much heat we’re delivering when we have the needles in the skin, the radio frequency heat. So, it’s very much tailored to the person’s skin color, their skin condition, and how much downtime again, they can allow themselves.
Katie (24:22):
Got it. I love this.
Rose (24:23):
Definitely do consultations before you get anything done. Don’t ever just go in and say, “Okay, I want it today.”
Katie (24:29):
That is such smart advice. Definitely do your due diligence. I wanna hear, because I know that you are a busy doctor with a full practice and we only have about ten more minutes with you so I want to make sure that we talk about your product line because I’ve done my research, it looks absolutely amazing. I haven’t used it yet, but I love the fact that you looked at the market, identified a gap in it, and then brought out your own line, which is now carried at Sephora which is a big deal. Tell us, you’ve got a secret sauce to your product line which is your Jamaican SupeFruit Blend. I would love you to tell our listeners what this is, why you include it in your product line, and tell us a little bit about the skin care concerns your line addresses.
Rose (25:14):
Okay. So, you know, I’ve been doing this for over 20 years as a dermatologist and there were patterns that I was noticing amongst my patients, of the problems they kept presenting to me and asking for my help with creating skin care regiments for them. And I used that as my template for what I would create a skin care line to address. So, the patients were the testing ground. What I started off with was a signature moisturizer which it seems like everyone was asking me, “We need a moisturizer, we need a moisturizer.” I’m like, “Okay so what exactly do you want your moisturizer to do?" And it turns out, they didn’t just want the product to moisturize, they wanted it to fix everything. Well, we need a moisturizer, we want it to help with our wrinkles, we want to glow, we want everything in addition to moisture.
Katie (26:02):
Yes, give us all of that.
Rose (26:04):
I took notes. And so when I created my signature moisturizer, all of that went into it. Then I started, then I created these booster serums which were then very much targeted to specific issues. So, everybody needs a moisturizer, but everybody’s skin concern was slightly different, but it fell into four categories.
The first and most common category I was being asked for help with was pigmentation issues. A lot of people had dark spots because they’d been breaking out for years, or they had too much sun, or they got melasma, so I created a booster serum that would work against that problem. So that’s one. The second one was for hydration. I can’t tell you how many times I’m asked for extra help with dry skin, “My skin is so dry, it’s so irritated, it never looks plump, it never looks like it’s fully, fully hydrated.” So I created a product—that’s filled with hyaluronic acid, by the way—for that concern, and it’s meant to be paired with the moisturizer.
Katie (27:06):
Is that the Retexturizing Retinol Booster serum or is that something different?
Rose (27:09):
No that’s the next one I was gonna talk about.
Katie (27:10):
Ooo, okay good.
Rose (27:11):
The one I was mentioning just now is the Calming Hydration serum.
Katie (27:14):
Calming Hydration, okay.
Rose (27:16):
But then the other categories, everybody’s skin, as we get older we worry about the fine lines, the wrinkles and we also want to do preventative care. So, I created a Retexturizing Retinol Booster which is gonna target fine lines, wrinkles, and just in general the rough texture of the skin that you can have. And the fourth one was for blemishes. So it’s called the Blemish Control Booster, it’s the one that targets acne breakouts, rosacea breakouts, laser bumps, things of that nature. So between those four categories, I was hitting on the most common things that I was seeing in the practice.
So I’m Jamaican-born. I went all the way through high school in Jamaica and then I did the rest of my education in the US. And I went back to my roots and created what I call Jamaican SuperFruit Blend, which is a blend of various fruit extracts that I grew up around. My parents would be using these things, my grandmother, we ate them, we used them, but we didn’t know why we were using them and what full benefits we were getting from it. When I went to medical school and when I went to dermatology training program, I realized that a lot of things that we were incorporating into our treatments for people were these same fruit acids that were in some of these fruit products that I was eating when I was growing up in Jamaica. So I created the Jamaican super fruit blend, which is a blend of orange extract, sugarcane extract, lemon extract and berries, and also hyaluronic acid. Like all these yummy things that we eat.
Katie (28:56):
It sounds divine.
Rose (28:58):
Yes. But turns out, scientifically they have skin benefits as well and I have been taking advantage of those skin benefits for years in my practice by using other people’s products.
Katie (29:08):
These must smell amazing. Can you smell the fruit and the sugarcane in the products?
Rose (29:15):
You know, people tell me that there is a scent to the moisturizer especially, but there’s no added fragrance in the product because I wanted to create something that was really clean and going to be not causing allergies in a lot of people, I wanted it to be very universal. So all age groups, all sexes, all races, everybody could use it and I wouldn’t have to worry about them reacting. So it’s clean, it’s got no fragrance, it doesn’t have parabens in it, there’s no animal testing. It also is vegan. I didn’t go for that, but in the end, the chemist told me that my product actually qualified as vegan. So, in terms of what’s in it, you’re getting a high level of ingredients that are effective in treating whatever the condition is that it’s supposed to target, but you’re not getting all these extra things that could cause problems like breakouts and rashes and things of that nature.
Katie (30:16):
When I was doing my research for this show, I googled you, I found some of the press and I want every listener to note this. Elle magazine says that this Retexturizing Retinol Booster serum “is so youth-ifying you’ll trick your kids into thinking you know how TikTok works.” And I was like [both laugh] I need to put that in my shopping cart because I don’t know anything about TikTok and I think youth-ifying sounds divine.
Rose (30:44):
I love it. And you know, we all need a little retinol. As we get older, that is like the first product that we should be including in our skin care regimen. You would have been doing sunscreen all along. But to fight those lines, the best over-the-counter ingredient is retinol. So, the trick has always been to try to find retinol that doesn’t cause excessive irritation and dryness because that’s the big problem with retinol. And my product, I specifically focused on that, I told the chemist, “Listen, we need one that’s highly concentrated so you can get some results, but I want it to be non-irritating.” And we landed on something pretty beautiful here. Because I never get complaints about irritation. Even for myself, I’m very sensitive to retinol and I’m able to use my product nightly and it doesn’t bother me.
Katie (31:35):
I love it, I love it. Okay, this is a perfect segue into our speed round before I let you go. So, your desert island beauty product.
Rose (31:44):
Oh, oh, oh, oh. [Katie laughs] I’m so corny, it’s gonna be the best sunscreen moisturizer. Like my signature moisturizer, if I could have sunscreen in it, but I don’t.
Katie (32:00):
Okay, that’s perfect. That signature moisturizer, we love it.
Rose (32:03):
It’s just awesome. It’s food for the skin, so everything is in there.
Katie (32:06):
Nice. An in-office treatment you swear by.
Rose (32:09):
Chemical peels.
Katie (32:10):
Chemical peels, okay. Nice. Hot or cold water to wash your face?
Rose (32:18):
Hmm, neither.
Katie (32:19):
Neither, so what are we talking?
Rose (32:20):
I say warm.
Katie (32:21):
Warm, okay, interesting. Yes or no, tea bags de-puff under-eye circles.
Rose (32:28):
Temporarily, yes.
Katie (32:30):
Okay, is Gua Sha effective?
Rose (32:33):
I’ve not been patient enough with my Gua Sha tool to say that [Katie laughs] so undecided.
Katie (32:40):
I love it. I got into it over COVID. My 20-year-old daughter actually got me into it and I’m addicted to it. I have no idea if it’s doing anything but it feels amazing.
Rose (32:51):
Oh, I love how it feels. It’s just, I wish that I would be more consistent. I’m such a consistent person and I wish that I’d be more consistent with using that so I could really tell.
Katie (33:00):
What about face rollers, do you use those?
Rose (33:03):
No, I don’t.
Katie (33:03):
No, okay.
Rose (33:03):
I do the Gua Sha, that’s it now.
Katie (33:05):
Okay so how about this. A product worth investing in?
Rose (33:12):
My Retexturizing Retinol Booster.
Katie (33:14):
Okay, we’re all throwing that in our cart, that’s a given. Okay, feel free to buy this budget-friendly item at the drugstore.
Rose (33:22):
Umm…
Katie (33:26):
I’m putting you on the spot [laughs]
Rose (33:28):
Oh good gosh. It’s gonna be a cleanser because those are easy.
Katie (33:32):
Okay, that’s good, cleansers. Best food to fuel glowing skin?
Rose (33:41):
Best food you said?
Katie (33:42):
Yes, best food.
Rose (33:43):
Oh, salmon.
Katie (33:44):
Salmon. Okay, I love salmon so I’m happy to hear that. And my very last question, this lifestyle choice will keep your skin radiant.
Rose (33:56):
Regular consistent use of fruit acids on your skin.
Katie (34:02):
Ooo, okay.
Rose (34:04):
I can’t say that any more clearly because that’s like the basis of what my skincare line is based on. Fruit acids, just help to bring the glow and if you do it all the time, that’s how you get it.
Katie (34:16):
Okay, I love that. Thank you so much for being with us today Dr. Ingleton, this has been amazing. Before we say goodbye, how can our listeners keep following you and your work?
Rose (34:25):
It’s been wonderful by the way, to be on your show.
Katie (34:27):
Thank you.
Rose (34:28):
You can follow us, the medical practice @ingletondermatology is the Instagram handle. And the skin care line is @rosemdskin. What else can I tell you?
Katie (34:40):
That’s perfect. I’m gonna put these all into the show notes. Listeners can find them at acertainagepod.com.
This wraps A Certain Age, a show for women over 50 who are aging without apology. Join me next Monday when I sit down with Dr. Janet Kennedy, also known as the New York sleep doc, to talk all things sleep, insomnia, middle-of-the-night wake-ups, and how to clock consistently great sleep, no medications needed.
Special thanks to Michael Mancini who composed and produced our theme music. See you next time, and until then: age boldly, beauties.