How to Build a Core Wardrobe + Refine Your Style with NYC Stylist Alison Bruhn
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Ready to (finally) open your closet and find clothes you love and feel great in—every time? Want to build a core wardrobe that works for you, not against you? Please meet NYC stylist Alison Bruhn, who shares ideas for curating your closet and being fierce and fashionable at any and every age. We get into fall’s hottest color, shoes that let you look chic without killing your feet, and foundational base layers that help you build a look. Plus, how to dress for Zoom because the world of remote work isn't going anywhere!
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I want to talk about aging, because I work with women in their closets all day long. And I hear all day long, “Back when….” Or “I used to be…” All these things. And I thought—you still are. It's still in there. You have all this time left. Don't let it pass you by.”
Transcript:
Katie Fogarty 0:03
Welcome to a certain age a show for women who are unafraid to age out loud beauties. We have a super fun show. Today, I'm joined by New York stylist Alison Gruen, who's going to help us get into all the things like how to open your closet and find clothes that you love and feel great in every time how to build a core wardrobe that works for you, not against you how to dress resume that weird new world of remote and hybrid work, navigating seasonal transitions when you literally have no idea what to wear, while the seasons waffle back and forth between hot, cold, hot, cold, how to be fierce, fabulous, fashionable at any and every age. Allison is a total pro. She is a National Style and Image Consultant with clients across the country. She studied at the Fashion Institute of Technology in New York and holds a color certification from the image resource center of New York. She is a member of the association of image consultants International. And she is incredibly chic and stylish. I'm so thrilled to be spending time with her today. Welcome, Alison.
Alison Bruhn 1:08
Thank you so much. I'm thrilled to be here.
Katie Fogarty 1:11
I know we went back and forth a lot to land on the on the day because it was a little tricky. But we're doing it now. And my very first question at some stage setting. How did you get started as a stylist and what made you team up with somebody very special to launch the style that binds us your media platform?
Alison Bruhn 1:29
Well, I actually started my business at age 50. I was living in Alabama. And I took an image certification program at FIT Fashion Institute of Technology in New York City. And hung up my shingle started working as a personal stylist and my daughter was on the buying team at Barney's in New York and she would say we met with a great brand, I think your clients would maybe it would resonate with them. So I would come to New York, meet the brand, fall in love with the story behind the brand, share it with clients around the country. And they would get all excited about fashion again, and we were helping these brands. So it's really exciting. And then at some point, do you really want to do it as my daughter, she really wanted to get into more than just buying, she wanted to have a podcast and we eventually had a YouTube channel and all these different things specifically on her end to get the word out about these special brands that she loved. And for me on my end, I wanted to introduce the brands and my clients to each other. And you know, it was just a big joy filled beginning and it took me a while to decide to do it because I didn't want to do a mommy and me business.
Katie Fogarty 2:58
There's nothing wrong.
Speaker 1 3:00
There's literally nothing wrong with that, but I didn't want to be like the mascot. Here's my mom, you know, I really took what I do for a living seriously. And finally I gave him when I realized the reach that we would have we could speak to so many more people and help so many more people and you know, I I also was hesitant in the beginning about putting like my photo on social media or being on YouTube or you know, I definitely put my foot down about doing Tik Tok and then you know, become on Tik Tok. So,
Katie Fogarty 3:37
that's hysterical. Well, I think that's part of the charm and the appeal of your brand that it really is that you know, I hear what you're saying about like the mother daughter thing but it's it's super cool to see how both of you interpret fashion through the lens of your own particular style and you're sort of where you are in your eight like your life chronologically right? Because you know you're both be wearing jeans, but maybe you've got it with like a blazer and she's wearing it with like cute sneakers and it's just to me, it's really interesting. I've got a 23 year old daughter. We shop at each other's closets but you know, I can't wear some of the stuff that she's wearing and she's got no interest in some of the things that I'm wearing but I think it's super fun to see you too in action together.
Speaker 1 4:21
Well, thank you it is that's what I realized. For example, this is how Alison wears it. This is how daily your wears it and D is a much she's a more romantic dresser and I am more sort of menswear for women kind of tailored aesthetic. And so someone her age my you know, my style might resonate with them and vice versa with day so it's age, it's also different style aesthetics and, and things like that and it is also mother daughter, you know you all mothers understand and all daughters understand when you know day is like you have to talk about aging now and I don't want to talk about aging. No one who's aging wants to talk about aging.
Katie Fogarty 5:03
But I don't know if that's actually true, Allison, because this podcast talks a lot about aging.
Speaker 1 5:09
Right? A lot of people talk a lot about it, but they don't want to talk about us themselves as an example. But this was about, you know, I don't know, eight years ago, and suddenly, I came to her one day, and I was like, you know, I think I want to talk about aging, because I work with women in their closets all day long. And I hear all day long. Back when, you know, oh, I used to be, oh, all these things. And I thought you still are, it's still in there. And you have all this time left. So don't let it go, you know, don't let it pass you by. So then I've got really passionate about and now I try everything. Anyone wants to send me any kind of product. Today, I was trying I was different shapewear and things like that, because my whole goal is it is entertaining, but it is an inspirational, but it's mainly getting information out there. Because somehow along the way, women have gotten the short end of the stick on that, you know, everything from all the studies that have been done, you know, the that we've had female doctors on talking about why women weren't included in a lot of medical studies. And they thought it you know, because their hormones that it would never be an accurate study and things like that. And so that was of course a myth. But as soon as I get information, I'm an inquisitive person anyway, so I ask questions all the time. If I don't know the answer, I find someone to give me the answer. And then I want to let everyone else you know know about it. Yeah, I
Katie Fogarty 6:43
love your your content shares a lot of information beyond fashion. It's about culture. It's about wellness. It's about lifestyle. But let's get into some of the fashion stuff because that's super fun. And you know, I have a question for you. I just did a big closet clean out in my own home because I had Home Organizing pro Shira Gil on the show several weeks ago, she wrote the book organized living her first book, minimalist, it was a New York Times bestseller. And and she helped me she helped remind me of something that I already knew. Getting to midlife means you know, you have more clarity, you want less stuff, you want fewer better things. I know that you offer counsel to women and how to build a core wardrobe, I would love to talk about what are some of the wardrobe pillars that you think that women should know about. And let's just start with one because we're going to be heading into a break soon. But what would be one starting point for building a core wardrobe.
Speaker 1 7:39
The absolute most important part is knowing your body type and the colors that work for you. And you might say, Well, I had my colors on, you know, when I was 25. I had my colors done by some woman that was my mother's friend. You know, when I was in college, our our skin tone changes, our hair color changes, our body changes. So what might have worked for you in the past doesn't work for you anymore. So when you get to midlife especially and you still have clothes from when you were young mom, and you still have, you know things that have never fit, but you can't figure out why but they're nice quality. So you don't want to give them away or every day I hear people saying, well, I've gained some weight, and then I lost it. But I've got you know, all the things that you go through and the process of living a life. But you need to know your body type. And you need to know how to accentuate that, how to balance that and how to camouflage areas that you might be a little uncomfortable about. Okay, and
Katie Fogarty 8:41
I love that I love that knowing your body type, we're heading into a break. But when we come back, I want to hear what we do once we've identified sort of the the styles that work for us, and then how we start building and developing that that core wardrobe. We'll be back in a minute. Alison, we're back from the break. When we went into it, you shared the Great tip of really honing in on the colors that work for you today. And what your body type is today. So once we've I sort of ID that how do we start building a wardrobe that we can use as our core?
Speaker 1 9:15
Well, the mistake that a lot of women make is they see something on someone else.
Unknown Speaker 9:21
Or I've done that.
Unknown Speaker 9:23
Exactly. Or on Instagram or on Taylor Swift
Katie Fogarty 9:28
oh my gosh, I would love to be able to wear what Taylor Swift wears, but she's probably like six feet taller than I am. So that's not gonna work.
Speaker 1 9:35
Exactly. And you know, blonde, you have blonde hair too, but different coatings. So then the the boxes come, the woman tries on the clothes, none of them work and she's thinks what is wrong with me? Why can't I make this work? And it's simply because it's not her body type is not the right colors for her. It's not even the right neckline for her. So once you know those things, that's why it's so important. It doesn't mean you have no out it just means those aren't pieces that are right for your body type. So once you know those things that right there makes it much easier to get dressed because you know what kind of jacket or blazer works for you and what to steer away from and things like that. So the way I like to do it is I know you had mentioned you know, you got all the right hangers and everything and then the question about do you hide them by outfit or how do you do it the way I do it is I have one section that is my bottom layer pieces for the top half of my body. That's going to be your silk camisoles, your T shirts, don't put your T shirts in a drawer and you know have them all wrinkled up and then pull them out and say well here's my T shirt because it's not going to look nice when you wear it. Treat it like it's a silk shirt and your silk shirt and your white button down whatever those basic basic pieces are. I have them in white I have them in black and then whatever the neutral is that works for you which is if you've got cool tones, then you're gonna go with like grays and things like that. If you have a warmer and taupe if you have warmer complexion like I did that's gonna be like camo and tan and things like that. So you have that's your neutrals and then you go to your pants which are going to be your blue jeans, a black pant, a neutral, the camel or the gray, whatever so you have you know and obviously that you have you're probably going to want more than one gene and more than one black pan or whatever it is depending on your lifestyle. But whatever those pants are, make sure that they're the right pant style for your body type. And then the next area is going to be your third layer pieces and that can be leather jackets that can be you know, propped blazers, longer blazers, the neck sweaters, you know car coats, whatever it is, even scarves whatever it is it's going to make the shirt and pant into a look. That's your third layer and then and this is the very beginning and then you're going to have shoes in neutrals that go with all of those things too. You don't need a random gray suede bootie if you aren't wearing any gray, right but if you have a lot of gray, you need a grace way booty because a black booty is going to be too dark at the bottom of a gray flannel pants. So you get those neutral shoes, flats, heels, whatever. Some for dressy some for casual your sneaker. I love booties because they're comfortable and they look good. And then the same thing with bags like a small clutch, a larger bag, a small clutch, a larger bag in the softer neutral so you have all of these things. And then you have the jewelry and you have the scarves. And then you can start adding in a red shoe or you know a another blazer that is a red blazer, I keep thinking red because red is a huge trend for fall 2023. And it's such a great pop. And then also of course, you just have your your dresses, your different dresses from casual today tonight. But when you set your closet up like that, it's almost like you're shopping at the grocery store, you're like okay, I'm gonna wear this blazer today, because I have blank going on. So I'm going to put it with this pant and that I think I'll use this CAMI today under it because then I won't be taken off the blazer. Oh, and I love this necklace that I always wear with this. So you're just walking along your closet just picking up your pieces. And then you have a full look you're not scrolling like you do on the computer you're not rest ruffling or whatever the word is rattling through your closet looking for your black silk CAMI or whatever
Katie Fogarty 13:39
you put them together. This makes so much first of all, you make it sound so easy. And I love when my guests come on. And they make things sound simple because I get excited about doing them. And you know, I do a little bit of what you what you share, like I've got all my bottoms hanging together. And I do try to group my tops by whatever they are like sweaters are together and the lighter layers are together. But Alison, my question for you and this is this is a real issue is that I love color and pattern and I have so many dresses that they're so colorful and so distinctive, and I don't mind repeating but sometimes I look in my closet. I'm like, I've got nothing to wear. Because things don't you know, what am I what? What's going on with this flower dress that that I have? So do you reckon Where do you land on patterns? I mean, is it just easier to have a core capsule wardrobe if we are using solids? Or what role does pattern play because I love pattern but I do find sometimes that it makes it harder for me to put outfits together.
Speaker 1 14:40
The core is the foundation. It's the canvas and then the pattern, the print the bold color, the pastels, whatever it is with your coloring that looks best. That's like what do they call it an interior design that fluffing fluffing the sofa when they add the different You know, patterned pillows and things like that in the draperies and everything else. So pattern. It also depends on what you're doing that day, you know if it's a more serious thing. If you work in a corporate atmosphere, I probably wouldn't wear a floral dress, for example. But those pieces are very important to they're just the second tier of your wardrobe. You start out with this core, it doesn't mean that's all you get to wear. Okay? That makes sense. Yeah, no, it
Katie Fogarty 15:30
totally makes sense. It totally makes sense. And at one point, I will say I was doing these sort of pattern dresses that I love, because it just was a little bit like hitting the easy button, because it's just one thing. You know, you're putting on one dress and you're, you know, in your shoes, and you're out the door. And when you have these other items where I'm coming up with a pant and done now, do I need a belt? And do I need a blazer? What's going underneath it? It felt like too many decisions, but it's I hear what you're saying about making it a max. Where do you land on transitioning into our next season? You and I are recording this during the fall in New York. As you know, the weather has been schizophrenic. It's been truly hot, cold, hot, cold. I feel like on one day, I'm dressing for three different seasons. How do we is it all about layering? You know, what should we be adding and subtracting at this stage? So we we feel comfortable, but we look seasonally appropriate?
Speaker 1 16:25
Well, first of all wanted to say about the dresses, a lot of people say all our wears dresses, if dresses look good on you. How great is that and wear them. You know, don't worry about the fact that it's easy. If it looks great on you wear it and be so thrilled that you didn't have to put any more thought into it. Seriously, but as far as the seasonal stuff, it gets a little bit harder, a little bit harder the older we get, because we have more parameters, like well, I don't want to show my arms, I don't want to wear a CAMI because if I get hot, I'm gonna want to take off my jacket, and then I'm, oh, I feel naked and you know, all all the things. So you really have to go back to those top, especially the top half of your body, finding things that work for you. And these things, the simplest pieces are much harder to find than the other things because it depends on Well, I'm a double D so I can't wear a normal buttoned down shirt or, well I don't like show my arms because of this or this is the neckline. So you that takes time. You know, it's almost like gathering up the paint brushes in the paints to make a painting. Yeah. Okay, so
Katie Fogarty 17:38
what what are some so what are some good brands for staples? I mean, I know that obviously people have a range of budgets, but what are some, what are some basic brands that really a woman can look to to start to build this sort of core wardrobe of tops that they can wear under lots of other things.
Speaker 1 17:59
And that's a hard question to answer because of body type again, but also I would say definitely especially with the way the climate is now trench coats are a great investment. I have a black one and I also have like a tan one. And you you end up wearing them almost year round and you can travel with them. You know they're great. If you're live in New York, go to San Francisco gotta take your trench coat. I think it really depends on obviously budget too. So Kate K h A, it is a very big brand right now Kate hosting is top of the heap right now and she's made an incredible trenchcoat, but it's super expensive. And then obviously there's Burberry which you can't be there again they have like 5 million different styles you have to try them on. You want to get one that you can wear over black dress and heels or a pattern dress in heels and also wear with jeans and a sneaker. So don't get one that's too casual. And then you can go down cause has a great one, whatever brand it is that you that you have gotten before and you like they probably are making a trench especially right now. It's really kind of crazy what's in style right now, which are these basic sort of quiet luxury pieces. So everybody's making a trench and then you know, it just depends workwear. And then Leffler has a good price point. We've been doing things with them lately, obviously MaxMara always if you're more on the fashion end, you know Bottega Veneta, as is a big name right now. Always one of my favorites is Eve Celeron. But in real life, you know, the middle of the road Veronica beard is a great brand for every day kind of casual that doesn't look too much like resort where if you live in a city and
Katie Fogarty 19:57
I'm wondering where do you land on because those are are wonderful brands too that, you know, obviously some of them are more expensive than others. You're talking about investment pieces. Where do you land on things like fast fashion, you know, like because Zara or like, Massimo, I'm forgetting the last name of that. But they, they they have things that look like the higher end labels that are less expensive, which is the quality sort of degrade? Is it worth, you know, doing a high low and mixing our closets up in that way? What's your take on that?
Speaker 1 20:27
We do not recommend fast fashion. Because there's, there's just too much stuff in the world. And also, as someone put it to me a long time ago, if you're buying a shirt for $19 somebody really suffered along the way in the making. But cars, I recommend cars a lot. If you are
Katie Fogarty 20:49
a an Allison, how are you spelling that so our listeners can go find it.
Speaker 1 20:53
It's Seo s and it is a part of the it's either the Zara or the h&m family, however, and it is a little more expensive, but they are very much invested in sustainment sustainability. And what I do also is a don't shop Amina. Personally, I would love to shop Zara because they just got everyone else beat with their prices, but they're just copying everybody else I remember when Well, I'm not going to say that. Anyway, the fabric, the quality is just not going to last right. So it's hard to find something price point was between Zara and MaxMara. And that is what I do for a living every day is try to find brands with high quality pieces, that that won't melt when you iron them, but aren't going to cost you you know, $1,000 in a for one dress. So it's really a hard place where where we are right now. Because
Katie Fogarty 21:55
everything is getting expensive, right? So it's either very, very cheap, or it's very, very expensive. I agree. And I love that you call that mm the floor I actually had the pleasure of being in their showroom. Recently, I was invited by a former guest Lesley Jane Seymour who is the former editor of Marie Claire and more magazine, and she hosted a conference in the show room, the clothes are absolutely beautiful. They're very sustainable as well. And they are made they've coined the phrase power casual, which is just a wonderful phrase for saying that, you know, we don't wear you know, power suits any longer, our lives have become more casual. But we still need to look pulled together, we still need to look like we can show up at work and look and feel our best. And so that's a great, that's a great line of clothing as well. Thank you for calling that out. Talk to me a little bit about shoes because you had mentioned that, you know, sometimes you deal you're in different things. I know that ballet flats are kind of back I love that because I'm an 80s kid and ballet flats are popular when I was young and they they really just I think they're so comfortable. Where do you land on these sorts of like, designer sneakers that are everywhere? Do you feel that you can you know that we can and should be mixing them into our wardrobes? Are there any ones that you like more than the other? Are you more like a loafer or ballet flat person for flat shoes?
Speaker 1 23:16
Yeah, I'm definitely more of a lover or a ballet flat. I wish I were a have one or two pair of sneakers but that's just not me and it's really not Delia either. So what we do and obviously I work with a lot of people who are younger than I am but are you know over the age of 40 and also I work with you know their kids to sew and I work with grandmothers I work with all different ages but everyone is they wear these shoes and they're go well you know everyone has some problem with their feet now. So my goal is you can still be stylish and be comfortable with your shoes. So for example we've just done a campaign with a brand a new shoe brand called ally a ll y. And it's a similar story to to other brands that have come before her she was a businesswoman and her feet hurt all the time. So she quit her job just like Sarah Fleur quit her job her business job too. And they wanted to fill the void that they saw So Ally shoes and Sarah Flint shoes to their several brands, Marian park, you know, they're they're more and more brands that are working with for the pietist and you know, scientists and engineers to figure out how we can still wear beautiful shoes
Katie Fogarty 24:41
that don't connect your feet exactly I love that I also like the brand Margot Mar gau X their their ballet flats have a little bit of padding inside and they've they've got different sort of straps where you can sort of pull and tighten things and they're actually super comfortable. I love that. So catch us up a little bit. I know that you know we get to make our enrolls in midlife, right? We are no longer being told what to do we get to decide what we're up to. But you know and sometimes fashion can feel very whimsical and you know, sometimes we're up for that we you know, we want to be whimsical. We want to wear whatever is trendy, but sometimes we also just don't care. We want to wear what's comfortable. What what is new on, you mentioned red being a hot color for fall. What are some things that we should be knowing about? If we do care to know what's what's, you know, hot for fall fashion? What should we be adding to our closet that we might not have?
Speaker 1 25:34
Right? Well, some of the things make me smile, because we probably all have had them or still have them in our closet like prep is back. So they're your ballet flats and cardigans, and you know, cable knit sweaters and button downs and jeans and stuff like that also quiet luxury. That just means cashmere sweaters, which we have a lot of an also there metallic is a trend. But you can wear it as a sweater under a blazer or a cute metallic ally flat or something like that, if you want to try that trend out bold colors are having a moment. So really what I do a lot of times is we put out the fall Trend Report. And then I put out another one that says for women over 40 How I would wear something if it's a trend that I like, but I'm not going to wear cutouts for example,
Katie Fogarty 26:28
right? Yeah, it's so funny. You mentioned cutouts, because I cut outs were everywhere for sort of summer dresses. And I tried a few and I'm like this is hard for me. But I did wind up finding this a beautiful white linen dress from an Australian brand called dish that has very, very tiny cutouts on the side, which I wore. And then I found one. When I was in Costa Rica last fall. For you know, on a holiday, I found this beautiful white dress and I bought the cut and I shared it with my daughter. And it's like a little bit more than I almost feel like I felt entirely comfortable with it. But I wanted to kind of embrace it. So you can you can you know you can share things with your kids and you can incorporate them in small ways. I love that you said metallics are back I actually have a pair of silver ballet flats, sitting in a shopping cart on a website and you're making me want to like run out and hit, you know, purchase? Because I think that's a fun way of incorporating it. What What should we be taking out of our closet? Like has something just been done to death that we could table for a while and take a break from?
Speaker 1 27:35
Well, first of all, absolutely wear the cutout? Yeah, you're not going to wear something where your whole, you know, belly button is showing or whatever. But
Katie Fogarty 27:43
the tie down certainly not.
Speaker 1 27:46
You know, I'm saying cut outs tastefully done, like on the sides or in the back or something that's so much fun, you know, and that's a part of like, we can still we can still wear that. Why not? We're still we're still, you know, yeah, so, right. But it's, um, and then as far as taking things out since that don't. Trends are fun, makes you feel modern and fresh. But trends. You know, we're kind of trend lists, like we're age lists. And I think that if it's in your closet, and fits well.
Katie Fogarty 28:22
It makes you happy, right? Okay.
Speaker 1 28:24
However, if it is a nice dress, and you're keeping it in there, because you paid a lot of money for it, and it still fits, and you can't make a reason to get rid of it. Ask yourself when you go out to dinner, will you ever grab it?
Katie Fogarty 28:39
Yeah. Yeah, that's a great question. Because that all that stuff that you're never going to wear needs to go because by the way, it can make somebody else happy. There are a lot of ways to donate or sell or, you know, move merchandise out of your closet into somebody else's who might really benefit from it. So I love that. All right, let's switch gears because we're nearing the end of our of our time together, Allison, but I do want to cover you know, what are we wearing in this virtual world? We have you know, I do a lot of my own work on Zoom. And I I know that a lot of people are doing that as well. People are also you know, interviewing virtually for jobs, there's a lot of time even if they're going to be in an office quite often they're doing virtual interviews. How do we show up on camera? In a way are we thinking about color should it be you know, are patterns too busy for this catch us up on what we should know about appearing our best on Zoom?
Speaker 1 29:33
Well, what I would do if Zoom is in your life, first of all, is take some quiet time and set up your scene. Make sure that what is behind your head is sending the message that you want to send because you know they're going to be looking at it just like we have spent two years now looking at the news reporters in their downstairs den, you know at their houses and things like that people are fascinated about what's behind you and let's say you're a lawyer Are there certain things you might not, you know, want behind you, or if you are, you know, whatever it is you need to be in control of you're seeing what is behind you what is around you and lighting is super important. And there are YouTube videos about how to set up lighting for them. The other thing I would say about personal appearance is don't wear anything that's distracting. So that means if you're wearing multiple bangles on your arm, you think it doesn't matter because they can't see it, they're going to hear it, it's going to be making like, you know,
Katie Fogarty 30:39
that's great advice, great advice, pollution,
Speaker 1 30:42
and then you know, nothing too dramatic, oversized earrings, busy, busy, busy patterns, people are trying to look at your face and that is like it's called there's a word for it, I can't think of what it is right this minute but it means that it's like your face is this nice smooth thing and then there's this this busy shirt going on underneath and the person's brain that's looking at the Zoom is is fighting the to, you know, disparate parts or whatever of the picture that they're seeing. There is also a filter on if you have like a matte black matte laptop that did my daughter showed me how to do I don't know how to do it myself but you can go on there and you can put this sort of soft focus filter which makes makes you look nice on Zoom too. So that's
Katie Fogarty 31:38
that's good. Is there is there a color that always works well on camera that people should I know everyone's got different skin tones and skin hair you know hair color, but are there one or two colors that we should consider making sure we have for our zoom appearances.
Speaker 1 31:53
I would probably wear a color that I know looks good on me. I would wear blue looks is a universal color. I would probably steer away from black. It's a little bit different than it is like on TV when you're going to make a TV appearance but navy blue,
Speaker 2 32:09
royal blue, red,
Speaker 1 32:13
there are different reds for your personal skin tone but those are some colors that I would recommend.
Katie Fogarty 32:19
Alright, fantastic. Thank you so much Alison, we are going to be moving into our speed round. This is a very fun way to end which is quick one to two word answers. So let's go do this. You ready? Sure. Launching the style that binds us was amazing. I can wear this wardrobe superhero again and again. black blazer this clothing item is worth a splurge trench coat, save your money this clothing item can be purchased very inexpensively.
Speaker 1 32:56
Anything white white t shirt. white blouse because they stain you know.
Katie Fogarty 33:02
smart smart. Okay? sneakers or flats? What jeans or trousers. Both prints or solids?
Speaker 1 33:17
That's hard solids but prints that have a medium size print. I don't do micro prints.
Katie Fogarty 33:23
Okay. Oh, that's smart. I love that. Okay, scared of color. Try this shade, which looks great on everybody. Navy Womp womp I bought this hot item and never wear it.
Unknown Speaker 33:37
No. Don't know.
Katie Fogarty 33:41
Well, that's good news, because you are picking carefully then. I love it. All right, last item I borrowed from my daughter.
Unknown Speaker 33:50
Well, we share everything. Okay, so.
Katie Fogarty 33:53
So this is my next question. And you might have already answered it when this item is missing. I know it's in my daughter's closet. Chanel slingbacks. I love it. I'm going to say when that white cutout dress that I was referring to earlier was missing. I know it's in Grace's closet because she actually wore it to her 23rd birthday. So I know I picked well. Alright, finally your one word answer to complete the sentence as I age. I feel proud. I love it. I love it. I feel proud to Alison, thank you so much. This was super fun. I really enjoy connecting with you. I've loved following your work on Instagram and I subscribed to your digital magazine that you and your daughter create and it was really a treat to spend time with you. So before we say goodbye, though, how can our listeners find you and your daughter your magazine and spend time with you and all of your fashion and style advice?
Speaker 1 34:47
Well, first of all, I want to thank you so much for having me and I love everything that you're doing as well. You can find everything we're doing our website is our hub the style that binds ask.com And we also we have an event list we have in person events in New York City and things like that. So you can sign up for that. The newsletter, everything you need styling, components and everything. It's all right there on the Style That Binds Us.
Katie Fogarty 35:16
Thank you so much, Alison. This wraps a certain age a show for women who are aging without apology. Want more of a certain age, this fall, we are going to have live events. That's right. We're getting out of the podcast booth and into the real world. And we want you to come hang out with us. Stay in the loop by signing up for our newsletter age boldly over on our website a certain age pod.com And before I say goodbye, a quick favor. I would love it. If you could take five minutes to read an apple podcast review. You can share something you learned on today's show or on a previous episode, or simply share why you tune in and make a certain age part of your week. Apple podcast reviews really help the show grow. Special thanks to Michael Mann CMU composed and produced our theme music. See you next time and until then age boldly beauties